Rossi Rifleman

Thanks to Ben and others at the cast boolit forum who shared how they make it, I decided to try it today. This is the basic mix:
50% beeswax
30% Red, Tacky Lucas High Temp Grease
10% Johnson's Paste Wax
5% Dexron II or Dexron III Trans. Fluid
5% STP Oil Treatment



But a forum member was nice enough to describe that in other units, and using a complete Red Tacky Lucas Grease:
24 ozs. = 3 cups - melted beeswax
14 ozs. = 1 3/4 cups - Red N Tacky , heat it..it doesn't really melt
4.6 ozs. = 2/3 cup - Johnsons Paste Wax - melted
2.3 ozs. = 1/3 cup - Dexron II or III ATF
2.3 ozs. = 1/3 cup- STP Oil Treatment

Note, 1/3 cup = 5 Tablespoons + 1 teaspoon


So I got several low cost supplies from Wally World, and from my local auto parts store:



I do my own electronics, so I have two hot ways to do surface mount reflow, so I tried one:



For the Red grease, I open the end, and squeezed it out like toothpaste (tip from a forum member here):



Then used spatula to get the other end (as much as possible):



I am waiting for beeswax from another forum member, but before I knew of him I had ordered a small amount through Amazon, which happen to come in little pellets. Here I got about 20 oz - I will add the rest later, as I was not 100% everything would fit in my container (it did):



The wax:

After I had the grease there for a while (while stirring it), I added the beeswax:





But I was never able to get enough heat, quickly enough:



So I tried my "better" hotplate:




The mixture got hotter, and the beeswax started to melt a little, so I added the Johnson wax, and the two liquids (using these to measure per the instructions above):



Although I got more heat, it was not hot enough to really melt everything:



Since I had everything mixed, I used my propane setup on the lowest level, and keep stirring it constantly:



That worked well, but it also worked fast!. As soon as you get the wax melted you need to kill the fire and keep stirring:



Since I knew I had the space, I went ahead and added the rest of the beeswax. Of course, I had to restart the fire for a short while, to get enough heat to melt the new beeswax:




After I had everything melted uniformly, with no clumps, I poured the contents on two pans:



I put them in the freezer for 1-2 hours, and then took them to my bench to cut up:



Since it shrinks, it is easy to get out:



Cut it with one of my small knives:



After cutting the two plates into triangles and strips of various sizes, I used the non-stick foil and set them aside for future use:



In a freezer bag for storage:



I hope to try this with pan lubing pretty soon (working now on a custom kake kutter!).

Will

Wow, thanks! That is quite an operation!

I'm actually gearing up to try Ben's LL mix (Liquid Lube).

Thanks Michael. I have some of Ben's Liquid Lube as well, and for light loads it is working great on my H&R single shot rifle:

[bgcolor=][/bgcolor]On Cast Boolits Ben talked about "rolling" it on large bullets. You know how you do that. I assume a shallow pan is used will a layer of lube that is not deeper than start of the ogive?

Ranch Dog wrote:On Cast Boolits Ben talked about "rolling" it on large bullets. You know how you do that. I assume a shallow pan is used will a layer of lube that is not deeper than start of the ogive?

I have not tried that method, but it makes sense - I need to try it one of these days.

For my 45-70 RD bullets (355 and 300gr) I just do the standard "tumble lube" in a small container with a very small amount of the BLL. Set them to dry on waxed paper:



Will

I also read where Ben "rolled " on the lube, but in a recent video he made he just swirled them with a small amount in a round plastic container. Then he picked them out with forceps and stood them on their base.

The first batch of Ben's Red I used a hot plate and it was hard to regulate the temp. The second time I bought a small Crockpot ($15) and dumped everything in. Set it on high and walked away. I think it took several hours, but everything mixed and melted perfectly.

Looking at the pictures it appears that Ben's Red is fairly thick and heavy has anyone tried pouring sticks and using it in a lubrisizer like the Lyman 450?

Make smoke,

Search the original threads from Ben:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthr ... highlight=

I seem to remember him pouring the still warm lube right into the lubrisizer.

Will

Thanks, Will.

Ohio3Wheels

I cut mine sort of like wquiles did and the sticks slide down in my Lube-a-Matic II fairly easy and I have lubed & sized several thousand bullets with it so far.

Steve..........