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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 22 Jan 2022 14:08

Sarge wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:I don't buy factory ammo any more (unless I add a cartridge) and all factory ammo is expensive. Steel 7.62X39 is $0.40 per round and no one has .44 anything in stock much so...


I saw that import ammo ban coming . I've sold/traded all the x39 rifles except a CZ-527 my wife deer hunts with and it won't run dry for a long time.



I only own a couple 7.62x39 guns, An AR and an AK both guns I assembled.
I can change out the caliber on the 7.62x39 at any time by simply swapping the barrel OR by swapping the upper.
I'll keep the AK since I put it together out of new parts including a Nodak Spuds receiver.

I've got something like a K of brass cased ball ammo and another 500 brass cases. I have some .308 125ish projectiles but I'm light on .311 ~125 grain projectiles.

7.62x39 has never been a caliber I've been particularly fond of.
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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 04 Apr 2022 21:51

Picked up a few Grendel parts recently.

18" Faxxon barrel and BCG.
https://faxonfirearms.com/match-series- ... extension/
https://faxonfirearms.com/6-5-grendel-t ... p-nitride/
Gas tube and B.A.D lightweight gas block. 3X Kaliban 10 round mags.
https://www.wingtactical.com/firearm-pa ... gas-block/

I've got a Midwest handguard already and a spare upper.
Leaves me needing a charging handle, a compensator and maybe building a dedicated carbine lower for it.
IF I build a lower for it I expect I'll LaRue trigger it as I think I've still got a spare in the parts bin.
https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ta ... s-trigger/
Probably try to put a Radian Raptor charging handle on this one and may upgrade a couple other builds that I put together the past year or so.

Probably put a medium power scope on it.
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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 07 Jun 2022 21:33

Given the state of inflation, the costs of food and fuel and housing in particular, and the fact that there appears to be nobody awake at the nation's helm I haven't been too active in either acquisitions or builds. I did pull the trigger on a few more firearms related tools right before the latest push by the national socialist democrat party for more gun control but right now I'm sort of in a holding pattern...
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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 01 Jul 2022 22:00

I keep looking, but prices on what I'm usually interested in seem to be still jacked up 20% or more and ammo's still stupid expensive. I've got a few more tools in mind and a few more parts but I'm not sure about full up firearms...
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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 28 Aug 2022 14:08

Looks like I may be picking up something finally.
A coworker has a Browning commercial BAR that needs a little TLC. Comes with sixty rounds of factory ammo.
I'm probably paying him too much for a project gun but I'm almost as interested in the fixer upper process as I am the gun as a shooter.
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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 03 Sep 2022 21:32

The BAR acquisition is still in work.
I'll be needing a new stock and I'd like to either refinish or replace the forend as well.
Boyd's makes sets for the BAR II but not the BAR Type I, at least not off the website.
I can modify the Boyd's to fit but I expect once it is fitted it will need to be bedded as well.

There's another vendor that makes a blank with the right inletting but it's a a-la cart sort of thing.
Buy the blank, pay as much or twice as much for any checkering, pay as much for the finishing. In the end the blank costs you three to five times as much when it's ready for the gun unless you do the job yourself.

I can do the work, but as a friend of mine has noted I don't really have the time to do the work.

I'm going to ask Boyd's if they can cut a blank to fit the Type I gun. IF so I'll probably go that way.
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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 10 Sep 2022 20:38

Inquiry in to Boyd's via email to see if they can provide me with a stock with Type I inletting (pre 1978 BARs).
No immediate results, but then the question was asked Thursday evening.

I'll give them about a week and if no response I'll call them.

I'd really prefer to buy the Boyd's with CNC checkering. I can probably do basic checkering but I don't have a lot of experience doing it. What would take a good smith/stock fitter a weekend to do would probably take me a month or more and that's not counting the practice I'd need to put in before messing with an expensive set of wood.

The problem right now is that Boyd's only lists ONE configuration of their wood and it's for the MKII BAR.
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Re: Spree...

Postby HarryAlonzo » 10 Sep 2022 21:04

I’m pretty sure that all of Boyd’s checkering is done by laser. Good luck with getting them to do something special.
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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 10 Sep 2022 22:56

HarryAlonzo wrote:I’m pretty sure that all of Boyd’s checkering is done by laser. Good luck with getting them to do something special.


I'm fine with their cookie cutter checkering.
I'd rather have Hogue's CNC fish scale checkring but I can deal with either Boyd's field grade diamonds or their lasered on scale checkering on the pistol grip of the stock. (I'm not certain I want the laser scales on the forearm and I haven't decided to mix and match YET but I might.)

What I want them to do 'special' is cut me a stock for the pre 1978 Browning BAR.
FOR the stock
This involves a slightly different trigger guard tang: 1/2" wide by a slight bit longer as opposed to 5/8" wide by shorter. (I'd even settle for simply making the channel 1/2" wide and cutting it longer myself.)

AND the Type I portion that fits inside the receiver outline extends all the way to the bottom of the wrist/receiver junction. The Type II portion that fits inside the receiver ends about a half inch from the bottom of the wrist/receiver junction.

OR cut me a stock that is drilled for the stock bolt but NOT inletted for the receiver and trigger guard.

Apparently there are also TWO forearms that Browning put on these guns. The shape of the forearm is the same but the distance to the sling swivel attachment grommet from the receiver has two possible measurements ~9" vs ~9&3/8". I suspect these measurements MAY be more connected to the cartridge length than the date of manufacture but I'll need to measure the gun to make sure of that. Boyd's doesn't mention the two different measurements.

There is a video on youtube of a guy slapping a Boyd's forearm on a 1971 BAR about a decade ago. He also 'fits' a stock on the same gun but he simply cuts a slight amount out of the trigger guard tang area with a dremel and slightly modifies the contour at the receiver interface. He fails to get full support the last half inch of the bottom of the receiver/stock wrist interface and makes no attempt to tighten up the extra 1/16" on each side of the trigger guard tang. I CAN do that AND build in additional support and bed the stock with fiberglass epoxy but I'd like to avoid the extra work. I don't trust the 300 Win Mag recoil in a Type I gun vs. the unsupported Type II inletting at the wrist. I suspect the reason this gun is cracked at the wrist involves either the stock bolt being less than tight or a poorly fitted stock in the first place.

I've seen at least one comment from someone online saying that Boyd's was interested in getting access to a Type I gun so they could get the dimensional differences to the Type II and could then offer the Type I stocks as well. I was sort of hopeful somebody had done that in the last 8-9 years so that Boyd's might be able to slap a blank on the mill and punch the Type I program for me.
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Re: Spree...

Postby Archer » 25 Sep 2022 19:11

Boyd's did get back to me rapidly and at least for now they make the type 2 stocks only.

There is a youtube vid of a guy putting a type 2 stock on a type 1 1970 30-06 rifle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OynPQpwdYI
He had to add a few washers to the stock bolt. He had to trim the stock contour to avoid the push button safety. He had to sand down the part of the stock that fit inside the receiver a little. He had to relieve the stock a little for the last 1/16th inch or so of the tang. He was left with a gap on each side of the trigger guard of about 1/16 inch.

The receiver of the type 1 and the type 2 appear to be extremely similar if not identical just about everywhere.
The stock screw plate that closes out the receiver for the type 1 and type 2 are interchangeable, as long as you change the stock bolt at the same time. The trigger assemblies are interchangeable, as assemblies, between the type 1 and the type 2. (Although the aft tangs are different.)

I'm thinking fitting a type 2 stock to a type 1 BAR is not a difficult thing. A little epoxy resin should fill in the gaps the guy on youtube had.
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