Here is the actually "chart" comparisons between my R92 357 Mag and My RG3030. As far as the "200 vs. 50" yard comparisons, it depends on which value you want to use as the criteria and of course, not all bullets are created equally. For the chart comparison above, they are someone equal, in that my designs follow each other dimensionally and use the same alloy.Chris wrote:Looking at the charts I can see that what I always knew was true. A 30-30 at 200 yards is about like a 357 mag at 50 yards. I would shoot a buck at 50 yards with one if I had to...I don't think I would go out to intentionally do it though, like shooting my 30-30 at deer at 200 yards.
Does this concur with your findings?
The 357 Mag is not the 30-30 Win but I have seen enough deer killed with both that I think either are effective. Using my bullets and loads, I see my Marlin 1894 and Rossi R92 as 100 yard deer rifles with no caveats. I also see my 30-30 Wins; a Glenfield 30GT, Marlin 336BL, and the Rossi RG3030 as 200 yard deer rifles. With either in use and if the deer I want steps out within the respective distances, I'm going thump them through the chest cavity. I'm really not going to wait for a perfect shot as my country is too thick to wait too long to shoot.
I have a young fellow here that is using a Marlin 336Y with my bullet loaded down to match the Thorniley Index of my 357 Mag load at 70 yards. He has killed 4 whitetails with this reduced load, I've been there for each, and the killing authority is absolute. Is what he shooting a 30-30 or 357? Don't know, but it is one dead whitetail.
In another example, last year I killed a buck with my R92 480 Ruger using my bullet and a doe with my R92 357 Mag using the bullet referenced above. I was in the same stand and both deer were at the same distance (90 yards). I shot both deer through the heart and the both responded the same way, they took a couple of steps and died.
There is no comparison to be made between the two cartridges yet the observed killing authority of each was identical.
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