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flying with a 92

Postby Moon Tree » 11 Apr 2018 14

have any of you flown with a model 92? What case did you use? Did you use a cable lock through the bolt?
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Re: flying with a 92

Postby HarryAlonzo » 11 Apr 2018 18

I've flown with a rifle several times, including the 92. Locking the rifle itself is not a requirement. I've done it, when it was convenient. If you don't have the hammer lock, I wouldn't bother. Hard case is required. Locks (non-TSA) on the case are required. The case has to be solid enough to not allow ready access, so it needs to be locked at multiple places (I've had TSA agents flex the case to see if they could gain entry).
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Re: flying with a 92

Postby rondog » 11 Apr 2018 18

As many thieves as there are in baggage handling, I wouldn't risk it myself.
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Re: flying with a 92

Postby Moon Tree » 12 Apr 2018 11

what is a non-TSA lock? I traveled with handguns last year. the case I used had a lock in the latch. I put the case inside my check in luggage so as to disguise it from baggage handlers. I plan to put the rifle case inside a large duffle bag with other items as my check in luggage this time, also.
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Re: flying with a 92

Postby Nashville Stage » 12 Apr 2018 13

When flying with firearms, there are two sets of rules that you need to follow: the TSA's & the specific airline's that you're flying on. If flying internationally, then of course your destination country will have laws as well.

I've heard many positive reports from others who have flown with firearms. As long as you know the rules & what to do, the process is fairly painless.

What HarryAlonzo said above is true. Another point to add is that the outside of the luggage shouldn't display anything that would make someone aware that there is a firearm inside. The firearms declaration tag (and any other tags that say firearm) need to be placed *inside* the locked case, not on the outside.

Place your name & cell phone number on the outside of the case so that TSA can contact you if they need to open your bag to inspect the firearm. Remember, the locks must be *non* TSA locks. You must be they only person who can open them.

Here are some good resources to look at:

- https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting ... ammunition

- Your airline's website

- Hands-down, the best series of articles about flying with firearms are these. The author has been speaking about this topic with great clarity for several years, and is an expert in locks & lock picking to boot:

Part 1:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018 ... -firearms/

Part 2:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018 ... y-skies-2/

Part 3:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018 ... dly-skies/

He also did a video on this subject. It's a few years old, so some of the details have changed, but it's a good overview. Caution: There's some adult language.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KfqtYfaILHw

Another good article:
- http://blog.beretta.com/10-gun-tips-you ... -with-guns

Pro tip: It's rare, but if something happens and your plane is diverted overnight to a state where your firearm or ammo is illegal to possess, you'll be stuck in a situation where you won't be able to pick up your luggage & check back in for your continuing flight the next day. A couple of people over the years have been in that unfortunate position, and there have been arrests & prosecution when trying to go back through security. The lesson: be prepared to just quietly pick up your luggage & rent a car to continue the last portion of your travel (or at least drive to a gun-friendly state & continue flying from there). Again, it's rare that all of those circumstances will align, but it's better to have a plan in advance, just in case. The author of the articles above says that he's gotten through that situation unscathed before, but he's a pro; it can be a minefield.

All that said, 90% off the time, it's a walk in the park. Just do your due diligence in advance, arrive with plenty of extra time (and printed copies of the regulations), be polite, smile, and ask for a supervisor if you run into any problems.
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Re: flying with a 92

Postby Nashville Stage » 12 Apr 2018 14

Moon Tree wrote:what is a non-TSA lock?

A TSA lock is a light-duty padlock that is keyed in a specific manner, where the TSA can unlock it with a master key without you being present. Any locks that you put on regular luggage must be TSA compliant, or your risk them being cut off & thrown away if the agents need to open your luggage for inspection.

The one exception to this rule is for luggage that contains firearms. They must be locks that only you can open, which by definition are not TSA locks.
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Re: flying with a 92

Postby Ranch Dog » 13 Apr 2018 07

I've traveled with a handgun a bit. Never had a problem, but of course, the firearm is inside a larger check bag.
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Re: flying with a 92

Postby HarryAlonzo » 13 Apr 2018 09

I've done just the opposite, and used a monster Plano double rifle case as a checked bag. Filled it with all of my clothes and essentials and a little Chiappa single shot .22 to shoot with the nieces and nephew. As a readily identifiable firearms case, the airlines do not generally let it come out on the luggage rotisserie. You have to pick it up in the little room set aside for oversize items, where they will ask for ID and claim check. Since the Fort Lauderdale airport shooting last year, some airlines have a policy of walking you out to the curb, but I have not experienced this myself.

The declaration that you sign and put in the case is only declaring that the firearm is unloaded. The case is then re-locked, and you and your case are escorted over to the TSA inspection station, which is more or less nearby. The TSA inspector may or may not ask you to open the case again, but generally they just do the wipe down to check for explosives. I don't know why the TSA would ever want to track you down after that point. I would caution against identifying yourself the exterior of any checked bag. The advice I've received is to put your business address or a neighbor's address on a luggage tag, so that your house won't get burgled while you're away. I believe the TSA can track you down based on the information bar-coded on the baggage claim tag.

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Re: flying with a 92

Postby Moon Tree » 24 Apr 2018 01

I'm sorry for the slow response. I've been weighing my options.

Thanks sage for the helpful links.

Harry, because of the size limitations (62" which is height + width + depth) for standard check-in luggage, I'm going to follow your advice and pack some clothing items in my gun case. I plan to use some of the vacuum seal clothing bag to reduce the bulkiness of the clothing.
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