R92 vs. win 73

[phonejack]

Read the article on the new winchester 73 in American Rifleman. Yes, the win. Is pretty and supposedly smooth. However, after reading about the 50 yard accuracy results, it doesn't come close to what my R92 will do. At three times the price do a R92 it doesn't appeal to me in the least.

[pricedo]

I knew Winchester (Miroku) was putting out a new 73 with none of the usual lawyer safety junk to target the SASS crowd because the 73 is reputed to be a fast cycling levergun. 357 Mag is probably the only modern carridge the feeble 73 toggle link action can handle safely.
Haven't read any range reports on it cause I'm quite frankly not interested in purchasing a gun noted for a weak action whether it be new or old.
I heard the new model was in 357 Mag and that it was outrageously priced like the other 3rd generation Winchesters.
{1st generation - pre 64, 2nd generation - post 64, 3rd generation - Miroku built rifles (post 2010)}
The 73s toggle link action is inherently much weaker than the 86, 92, 94, 95 actions & not being a SASS competitor I wouldn't touch it for that reason alone. There are better/cheaper choices for hunting. If you feel you really need faster follow up shots get a pump or a semi-auto.
I bought a Winchester (Miroku) model 94 Trails End take down in 450 Marlin and was unimpressed with its accuracy considering that I could have bought a much superior in every way Browning BLR (also built by Miroku) in the same caliber for $500 less money. I already had a BLR in 450 Marlin and bought the Miroku 94 out of curiosity. It's collecting dust in one of my gun safes as we speak. If it wasn't one of the two only current production leverguns in 450 Marlin it would be gone now. I'll have to dust off my reloading skill-set and equipment and develop a load for it as it doesn't like either of the Hornaday factory ammo offerings (325 grain FTX, 350 grain FP).

I'd probably let the Miroku 94 go if I could find the 2nd person in North America (besides myself) dumb enough to buy one.

[kokopelli]

had a Uberti '66 and a '73...neat design, but heavy, bulky and expensive. For SASS classes that dictate period correct gear it has a place.
The 92 is just, we'll, cool- light, thin and handy.

[Ninety Caliber]

Unless one is a TOP SASS competitor( as in 20 second stage times) which Iam not.....there is no advantage to a '73! Very few can out run a slick '92

[44-40 Willy]

Interesting about Miroku built guns not being renowned for accuracy. The only one I ever owned was a brand new Browning BPR-22 Mag back in the early 80s that couldn't hit a barn from the inside. 12" groups at 30 yards were the norm and that was using a scope. It got worse using the iron sights. Back then the only 22 Mag ammo readily available was either Winchester or CCI. Neither helped.

It was a great looking gun. Just that no one who fired it could hit anything with it.

[pricedo]

My 2 x BLRs both made by Miroku are very accurate.
I paid about $850 for my BLR in 450 Marlin and close to $1300 for the Miroku Winchester 94 TE also chambered in 450 Marlin.
These guns are both take down models.
The BLR is achieving a consistent < 1.5 MOA 3-shot group @ 100 yards and the 94 TE is throwing 6 MOA 3-shot groups at the same range that a junkie in the throes of DTs could beat with a shotgun.

[Missionary]

Greetings
Have two of the jap Winchester 86's in 45-70. One is the 26 inch octagon and the other is the light weight. Both fuction flawlessly with my cast loads and shoot as well as any other lever flipper I have owned.
Bought them both when the big wholesalers were selling out.
The light weight model if as nice to carry about as any 45-70 I have ever owned. Only thing I do not like is thos silly tang safeties.
Mike in Peru

[pricedo]

My next project is to see if the Miroku Winchester 94TE/450M will shoot handloads pushing heavy hard cast lead bullets any better than it shoots the Hornady factory ammo (325 grain FTX, 350 grain FP).
To determine that I'll have to elevate my lazy carcass off the sofa and make some.
There is only 1 ammo maker that makes factory 450 Marlin ammo...........Hornady.
The shortened 450 Marlin cases from firing the Hornady factory LeveRevolution 325 grain FTX ammo might be the cats meow for developing a heavy hard cast lead load for the 94TE/450M.

[Johnz]

Wasn't that a '73 that Kevin Costner used to take down buffalo in Dances With Wolves?

I've heard that new Japchester '73 will run between $1500 -$2000.

[pricedo]

Wasn't that a '73 that Kevin Costner used to take down buffalo in Dances With Wolves?

I've heard that new Japchester '73 will run between $1500 -$2000.

Can't see a big line up in front of the gun shops to buy em at that price but who knows?