Win for Gun Owners in… California?

[Tuco Ramirez]

I hope it sticks!!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02 ... alifornia/

[akuser47]

Alright, I hope it works out good start though.

[Archer]

The RIGHT of the people to KEEP and BEAR arms...

[Fullthrottle]

Not a guarantee yet for us peons, but a very good step in the right direction! The Calguns foundation has been behind this from the start and has even started(and won) many lawsuits in the past for CCW in CA!

There is a bunch to undo in this state, and even more to fight for!
I see so much in other forums(not here so much), of the "BLANK CA", "LET THEM FALL IN THE OCEAN","GOOD FOR THEM<THEY GET WHAT THEY VOTE FOR", comments.
As I have said to that, what happens here can and likely will end up in other states! I will do what I can to not let that happen....and it would behoove all of the firearms community to support the few good wins in CA!

Given enough time even water can erode stone!

[akuser47]

I agree 100%

[Archer]

One of the big problems with CA is they tend to move out and then try to turn the place they move to into the place they left with all the problems that caused them too leave.

It isn't limited to CA.
Growing up in the South I noticed a whole lot of Yankee's moving into North GA with some of the same attitudes. According to them they left heaven for the backward and ignorant South and those of us in the South should immediately adopt the attitudes and customs of their homeland since it was so superior they had to leave it in order to get a job and make a living.

In terms of industrial and factory jobs as soon as the yankee worker bees managed to get things unionized just like home most of the factories moved on to Mexico and China. Product quality tended to go to crap but the execs had pulled their bonuses out of the companies in advance and moved on to the next.

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As to the right to carry in CA, I had a discussion this afternoon about this and regardless of the courts or the law it isn't over until it is over and even then the dems will be fighting it so I ain't holding my breath. This won't be the first time the courts have told a county or a state to follow the law. It may not be the last they find a way to do the exact opposite.

[Tuco Ramirez]

I have seen first hand when I lived in PA that the big cities can out vote the rest of the state. Pitt and Philly would carry the state when everywhere else voted just the opposite. We just saw much of the same with CO. The rural areas are being over run by big city idiots. As a general rule folks who live in the rural areas are self sufficient and the city dwellers are more inclined to let the Govt take care of them.

Anyone who thinks the Govt is this the answer to their problems is in for a rude awaking IMO.......

[pricedo]

This case is heading for SCOTUS where the decision will have nation wide validity.
Gotta keep the pressure on the politicians & back the pro-2A organizations (NRA, GOA, Calguns) that are footing the tremendous legal costs of these high court victories with more than just wistful best wishes for a happy ending & moral support.
Happy endings flow from the same well-head as most good things in life.......that well is pumped by active participation & money (pro-2A organization dues & donations).
California is like an oyster with a real tough shell but we will crack it with our vigilance and absolute refusal to be the societal scapegoats for lunatics & criminals.

[Archer]

Several years ago I recall a quote that 40% of the welfare cases in the nation were in CA.
CA democrats have kept the government assistance flowing and you are penalized if you are actually trying to work for a living in taxes and IF you are on assistance the easiest way to loose it is to start working even part time.

It has reached the stage here that the major metro areas have been sending out tendrils into the rural areas in the form of those assistance offices AND requiring section 8 housing plus a lot of the prisons are placed in rural areas and they move the families out to be near the inmates. End game is monolithic monoparty politics. In additional aid of that they've mostly removed party affiliation from the ballots and the top two vote getters regardless of party end up out of the primaries in the election. This results in a lot of choice of two democrat socialists with little distinction between them. The last couple folks the Repubs ran against Feinstein could have best been described as Feinstein lite.

With the SCOTUS being infested judges who seem to be primarily concerned with their party affiliation and ethnic heritage over and above being able to read and understand the constitution and simple English, not to mention rewriting laws on the fly rather than simply declaring them unconstitutional and sending them back to be re-legislated, it is anybody's bet what will happen when and if this reaches the court.