There really is a Santa Clause
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
Finally built a dozen of these for each... Blackhawk and Rossi lever.
For lever I did Starline brass with 18.0 gr Lil Gun at 1.655". They BARELY cycle treating it like a rented mule.
For revolver I did 16.0 W296 (wow) at the same 1.655" OAL in Winchester brass. They won't chamber (one did). I cleaned the cylinder aggressively. No change. Ran them into the size die with the decapper out . No change. Pushed some bullets from the same lot through a .358" Lee bottom feeder. No change. Added more "Lee factory crimp". No change. Set them back a schosh to 1.63X" and they mostly chamber.
After my under-minimum (my guess) headspace issue on the .222 Rem Savage I'm rethinking trying these.
Two hours to load two dozen cartridges makes me tard. The Ruger is full of lead.
For lever I did Starline brass with 18.0 gr Lil Gun at 1.655". They BARELY cycle treating it like a rented mule.
For revolver I did 16.0 W296 (wow) at the same 1.655" OAL in Winchester brass. They won't chamber (one did). I cleaned the cylinder aggressively. No change. Ran them into the size die with the decapper out . No change. Pushed some bullets from the same lot through a .358" Lee bottom feeder. No change. Added more "Lee factory crimp". No change. Set them back a schosh to 1.63X" and they mostly chamber.
After my under-minimum (my guess) headspace issue on the .222 Rem Savage I'm rethinking trying these.
Two hours to load two dozen cartridges makes me tard. The Ruger is full of lead.
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
Tight throats?
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
I'd bet. Right now every time I try something new I end up needing a smith or tools. Damn thing is nearly 40. Its throats should have opened up by now. LMAO
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
Crickets.
1.630" chambers with a little help. Chamber throats take some effort to push a raw bullet through from the rear. They're not as tight as the breech/lead-in to the barrel so I guess it's OK. This gun has shot very well for me with more normal loads so I'm not ready to ream it. I just don't wanna blow it up.
1.630" chambers with a little help. Chamber throats take some effort to push a raw bullet through from the rear. They're not as tight as the breech/lead-in to the barrel so I guess it's OK. This gun has shot very well for me with more normal loads so I'm not ready to ream it. I just don't wanna blow it up.
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
Thoughts?
Maybe the throats aren't tight just "long"?
Idea if this load will be safe at 1.63"
Maybe the throats aren't tight just "long"?
Idea if this load will be safe at 1.63"
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
I don't think that the throats would be "long". If a full length case will chamber, then the chambers are correct (which I'm sure they are) The "chamber diameter" bevels down to the throat diameter, and the throat goes all the way to the end of the cylinder.
Sounds like your throats are tight, like most all rugers are. Why don't you slug the throats so you'll know for sure?
Those bullets have a pretty long "full diameter" section on them. Then you loaded them long too. So I think you are trying to put a fat bullet into a tight fitting hole.
Sounds like your throats are tight, like most all rugers are. Why don't you slug the throats so you'll know for sure?
Those bullets have a pretty long "full diameter" section on them. Then you loaded them long too. So I think you are trying to put a fat bullet into a tight fitting hole.
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
Will it mess up accuracy on "normal" loads to open it a bit?
I pounded a raw 180 through. Is that good enough to measure?
I pounded a raw 180 through. Is that good enough to measure?
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
It shouldn't hurt and actually should help CAST bullet accuracy to have the throats .0005 to .001 bigger than the grooves in your barrel. Doesn't really affect jacketed bullets "they say".
But I would not do it unless it's really needed.
Yes, an oversized bullet pounded through will do ok. That's what I use most of the time.
And FYI. The steel that ruger uses is some more kinda hard azz stuff!!! Even if you buy a brand new reamer, it will not cot that steel like you think it should. It tends to grab and tear and make a mess of it. You'd be much better off sending it to one of the guys that specialize in doing that. There's one on the cast boolit forum.
But I would not do it unless it's really needed.
Yes, an oversized bullet pounded through will do ok. That's what I use most of the time.
And FYI. The steel that ruger uses is some more kinda hard azz stuff!!! Even if you buy a brand new reamer, it will not cot that steel like you think it should. It tends to grab and tear and make a mess of it. You'd be much better off sending it to one of the guys that specialize in doing that. There's one on the cast boolit forum.
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20" BL 92 357
20" SS 92 44
20" BL 92 44
20" Bl 92 45C
20" Bl 92 454
SS Rio Grande 30-30
Bl Rio Grande 45-70
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Re: There really is a Santa Clause
I got a guy that will lead me if I choose. I might leave it if it's safe to shoot the 1.63" 180s with the full load I put behind them.
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