Rethinking my 357 Mag as a hog rifle?

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Re: Rethinking my 357 Mag as a hog rifle?

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Too bad we don't live closer. My grandson loves shooting coons with his .17, but we don't have nearly as many around here as you obviously do.
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Very interesting write up. Just today I was pondering the effectiveness of the 357 on medium sized game (deer, black bear, etc...). I've never hunted with one but have been curious about it for some time. Personally I hunt with a 44 Magnum rifle loaded with hollow points and use the 38/357 for "plinking".

Also, thanks for the link to the cheek pad. That looks much nicer than the stock ones that come with the Rossi.
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I think the 357 Mag, as I use it, is more of a whitetail rifle than a hog rifle. I have no experience with black bear but would think it would be more like a hog. My shooting probably averages 70-yards and I've found the R92 with my 175-grain bullet to be very effective on whitetails at this range.
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Ranch Dog wrote:I think the 357 Mag, as I use it, is more of a whitetail rifle than a hog rifle...... and I've found the R92 with my 175-grain bullet to be very effective on whitetails at this range.
Well that is encouraging. I have always thought a 357 hard cast out of a rifle should perform similar to a 30-30. Would you say that has been your experience?

A friend of mine used to hunt deer with a 357 and he swore it off due to "lack of penetration", however he was using hollow points out of a pistol. My brother has been thinking of hunting whitetail with his Winchester 94 in 357 and I was looking for some solid starting point for him.
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dvw86 wrote:Well that is encouraging. I have always thought a 357 hard cast out of a rifle should perform similar to a 30-30. Would you say that has been your experience?
I think a full load 357 Mag with a 170 - 180 flat point cast would be like a reduced load 30-30 Win using a 170-grain flat point cast. At least that I how I start the kids here. I also really control the shots, just like I would do. If a really young kid is coming to hunt in the fall, I start them in the summer with a couple of sessions using my Marlin 1894CL chambered in 32-20 Win and then move to slightly reduced loads in the 357 Mag. By hunting season they are are shooting full load 357 Mags.

I've killed a couple of whitetails with the 357 Mag out at 100 to 125 yards. I would say on these all the conditions were right, the stars were aligned and I felt completely certain of the outcome.
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Thanks, that is good info to pass along to my brother.
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Maybe coons need a NOE hollowpoint in a lighter bullet maybe from a .38 or a mild loaded .357 magnum.
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Ranch Dog, a couple of questions on your TLC359-175 RF loading for the M92 Rossi. I think you mentioned in another post that you size the bullets to .357, is that correct and how did you end up there vs .358 or .359? I was just looking at your cartridge drawing on the Ranch Dog outdoors site and it shows .359 for this load so wanted to make sure I was reading this right. I think I will order some from Carolina Cast Bullets, they list them in .359 and .358 for the 175 and 190. Second question, what primer are you using? I assume small pistol magnum but wanted to be sure. Also do you have a preference as to the primer brand? Final question, what type of lube are you using on these loads?

This is a great forum and you have obviously put a lot of work into it, keep it up!

Thanks in advance.
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Cheyenne4090 wrote:Ranch Dog, a couple of questions on your TLC359-175 RF loading for the M92 Rossi. I think you mentioned in another post that you size the bullets to .357, is that correct and how did you end up there vs .358 or .359? I was just looking at your cartridge drawing on the Ranch Dog outdoors site and it shows .359 for this load so wanted to make sure I was reading this right. I think I will order some from Carolina Cast Bullets, they list them in .359 and .358 for the 175 and 190. Second question, what primer are you using? I assume small pistol magnum but wanted to be sure. Also do you have a preference as to the primer brand? Final question, what type of lube are you using on these loads?

This is a great forum and you have obviously put a lot of work into it, keep it up!

Thanks in advance.
The groove diameter of my R92 357 Mag is .355" right on the SAAMI spec. I shot both .357" and .358" and the latter held a slight edge in accuracy so I size everything for this rifle to .358". I use small pistol primers, I don't use magnum primers for anything.

Now the bad news. Jerry of Carolina Cast is no longer in business according to the latest contact a user had. He had suffered a stroke and is unable to do the work. That is what was reported here on the forum.
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Thanks I guess I need to slug my barrel and see what it measures also do you use a particular lube or do you use one of the newer coatings? If Carolina cast is no longer in business I guess I'll be picking up a mold and making them myself.
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