CAS....SASS!?

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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby Ranch Dog » 21 Jan 2013 07

runfiverun wrote:...then some of the cowboy's complained about some cow excrement on my boots. apparently i didn't dress cowboy enough for them just because i worked with cow's and didn't dress like clint eastwood i didn't do it right.


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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby 44WCF » 08 Feb 2013 17

runfiverun wrote:i shot sass for a bit.
then some of the cowboy's complained about some cow excrement on my boots.
apparently i didn't dress cowboy enough for them :lol:
just because i worked with cow's and didn't dress like clint eastwood i didn't do it right. [shrugging]
they weren't too fond of me knocking their dingy noise cut out thingy's over with my loads either.
so i just moved along


"Hey, thats no fair. He's an ACTUAL cowboy!" ;)
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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby pricedo » 08 Feb 2013 20

You get cliquish, stand offish behavior in just about any human group activity when you're the NEWB......you see it manifest in university frat hazing rituals, the military, in the workplace with new employees, even on some internet discussion boards..........it's human nature (group psychology) based on prehistoric instincts that people need to "test" and put through their paces other people who are joining a defined group.

If they don't know you at the SASS shoots reception might be "cool" for the first shoot or so til they get to know what you're all about.

When our nomadic ancestors ran around the African plains naked with spears & clubs it was a big deal to approach another clan to solicit membership and as often as not the NEWB was invited to dinner AS THE MAIN COURSE.
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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby Gray Fox » 09 Feb 2013 12

My wife and I are both SASS members, I've been a life member for almost 10 years. We haven't shot much in the last couple of years, however, as the clubs we shot with here in GA are about 200 miles round trip from us and gas as well as reloading components have gotten a bit pricey on top of shoot fees. We used to be pretty good at this as the wife was the GA women's top shooter two years in a row and I took the Alabama men's championship one year when I had the longest run of good/lucky shooting I ever have had.

My wife shoots a Rossi .45 Colt carbine and I have a .45 24" rifle, both have Taurus tang sights since our eyes are getting up there in age. She shoots a pair of old Red Box Ruger Blackhawks, one 4 5/8" and a 7 1/2" in .45
Colt. I shoot a pair of 4 5/8" stainless .45 Colt Vaqueros. She shoots a 20 ga coach gun and I a Spanish 12 ga double.

I also shoot the long range BP rifle side matches with a Browning 1885 .45-70.

I cast all the bullets for our guns and reload all the ammo. Guess who gets to clean them all, too.

The Rossies when we got ours a dozen or so years ago were much rougher when new than the ones we have bought in the last year. We have two 16" .357s, one stainless and one blue that we have set up with scout scopes that are zeroed with Ranch Dog's 175 grain bullet that shoot very well. I really like the scout scope settup since the barrel now comes predrilled for their mount. However, the main reason we went with it is that both rifles shot over a foot high out of the box at 50 yards with the rear sight elevator removed and the sight resting on the barrel with any load I tried and any bullet weight.

I recently got a .44 mag 20" carbine that I put the Steve's Gunz peep sight on in lieu of the safety. Unlike what I've read, it was a real PITA to get the safety retaining pin drifted out and the pieces changed out. I haven't put a round down range with it yet since the closest range is an hour away, but the rifle itself is very smooth to operate and the wood to metal fit is OK.

Bottom line is I think that the Rossi rifles are a bargain for the budget-minded SASS shooter, but I wish they were as easy to clean and maintain as a Marlin 1894. Gray Fox
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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby pricedo » 09 Feb 2013 16

Gray Fox wrote: However, the main reason we went with it is that both rifles shot over a foot high out of the box at 50 yards with the rear sight elevator removed and the sight resting on the barrel with any load I tried and any bullet weight.


That's a very common observation.
I just replaced the front sight with a taller one.
I like the iron sights and don't know how the Scout scopes would be amenable with the kind of shooting they do at the Cowboy Action matches. :?:
I hate the looks of the Scout scopes (& the power limitations) anyway..........especially on legacy guns. :mrgreen:
I don't do the CAS/SASS thingy cause I don't like crowds.........two's (me & the gun) company & three's a crowd.
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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby Gray Fox » 09 Feb 2013 21

These .357s were not intended for SASS shooting, and the existing front sights were so high as is as to be just wanting to be bent or broken off by any type of field mishap. SASS is so restrictive that you can't even put red paint on the front sight to make it more visible since "that ain't the cowboy way". I'll bet they had bright red paint after 1892 and that some truely radical individual even put it on a front sight bead, but that isn't an argument you'd win with those we referred to as the "Clothing and equipment Nazis". Depending upon how usefull the peep sight is on my new .44 and how well my old eyes take to it, I may end up setting it up with a scout scope, too. GF
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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby Barry in IN » 09 Feb 2013 22

And that's why I always talk myself out of CAS whenever I get the urge. I'm not interested in a shooting sport where I need to spend more on a wardrobe than guns.
Yep, they had paint then, and I'm sure it was used on sights. If it was only done once that was more than there were short throw lever conversions, I bet.
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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby Model 52 » 09 Feb 2013 22

I have to admit that growing up on a ranch, shooting since age 6, riding a horse to check cows and move cattle, working cattle, pulling calves, feeding cattle in 20 below zero weather, etc - and then having someone who's never even seen a cow up close tell me I'm not "cowboy" enough tends to turn me off on the whole CASS thing. Especially when they have a "B" movie category.

I don't live or work on a ranch anymore but I still wear a cowboy hat and boots because I earned them and paid my dues, but it's not cowboy enough. Go figure. Maybe if they adopt an "real cowboys who've done an honest days work" category, I'll reconsider.
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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby ironhead7544 » 10 Feb 2013 07

Concerning the front sight on 357s, I looked at one recently that was very high. Was a new SS carbine that just came into the gun shop. I guess Rossi is addressing the problem.
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Re: CAS....SASS!?

Postby ironhead7544 » 10 Feb 2013 07

Model 52 wrote:I have to admit that growing up on a ranch, shooting since age 6, riding a horse to check cows and move cattle, working cattle, pulling calves, feeding cattle in 20 below zero weather, etc - and then having someone who's never even seen a cow up close tell me I'm not "cowboy" enough tends to turn me off on the whole CASS thing. Especially when they have a "B" movie category.

I don't live or work on a ranch anymore but I still wear a cowboy hat and boots because I earned them and paid my dues, but it's not cowboy enough. Go figure. Maybe if they adopt an "real cowboys who've done an honest days work" category, I'll reconsider.



I would like to see a non costume type club too. I was going to get into cowboy shooting but after going to several shoots I changed my mind. Very few people would even talk to me. I only met a couple of guys that I thought were OK. They said it had become a mess with all the clothes rules and very unfriendly as far as competition went. Seemed like combat shooting with funny clothes. Very unfriendly and a lot of them acted like they were afraid of new people who might be better shooters and a risk to them. I started combat shooting around 1975 but gave it up because of that kind of attitude.
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