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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby GasGuzzler » 18 Jan 2018 07

Now I am ordering 7.62X39 dies and looking at .308 bullets and molds.
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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby mr surveyor » 18 Jan 2018 09

GasGuzzler wrote:Now I am ordering 7.62X39 dies and looking at .308 bullets and molds.



you got all that used brass for a good price, didn't you :)


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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby Mad Trapper » 18 Jan 2018 10

I just put this one in my cart, working on an order for February.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/30580 ... -gas-check
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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby GasGuzzler » 19 Jan 2018 06

mr surveyor wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:Now I am ordering 7.62X39 dies and looking at .308 bullets and molds.



you got all that used brass for a good price, didn't you :)


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Good enough price to buy Lee dies, Lee FCD, Lee trim gauge, and start research on bullet choice.

Need another Auto Disc but have the turret. Oh yeah....ordering a 7.62X39 upper for a spare but built lower so I won't waste powder and primers on my Yugo spray and pray steel eater. +guns
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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby Ranch Dog » 19 Jan 2018 07

GasGuzzler wrote:
mr surveyor wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:Now I am ordering 7.62X39 dies and looking at .308 bullets and molds.
you got all that used brass for a good price, didn't you :
Good enough price to buy Lee dies, Lee FCD, Lee trim gauge, and start research on bullet choice.

Need another Auto Disc but have the turret. Oh yeah....ordering a 7.62X39 upper for a spare but built lower so I won't waste powder and primers on my Yugo spray and pray steel eater.
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I wish now that I sent you that double disk! Charges are going to be in the 1.90cc to 2.00cc range.
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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby GasGuzzler » 20 Jan 2018 06

The two ADs I got from you are going to be for 9mm and .45ACP.

The new Auto Drum or Auto disc I need for 7.62X39 will require a rifle riser to use it on the turret plus the double disc kit I forgot about if I go with the AD.

My original AD is set up for 5.56X45 so it already has the riser and double disc.

So that's two or three more items I need and I still have not figured out which powder and bullet to use.

The Auto Drum is cheaper than the Auto Disc AND doesn't require the double disc right?
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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby Ranch Dog » 20 Jan 2018 07

GasGuzzler wrote:The Auto Drum is cheaper than the Auto Disc AND doesn't require the double disc right?

Yes, the Auto Drum is about $13 to $14 cheaper than the Auto Disk and a Double Disk Kit, the prices are from Titan Reloading. If you buy the Auto Drum, you will probably use it in place of your current Auto Disks as well. Four Drums come with the base unit, two small capacity drums that will get you up through the 223 & 7.62x39 and then two large drums. The Large include a permanent plug that can be inserted into them that will make them short drums. The best way to use the drums once you are set on a load is to label and leave them.

With the 7.62x39, you will need the Lee Short Cartridge Charging Die (#90668 ~ $12) with either of the delivery systems. Lee does sell a Charging Die Kit (#90995 ~ $18) that includes both a Long & Short Die.

I'm curious about the need for the Riser. I have one but never have used it. Is your press a Lee?

GasGuzzler wrote:...I still have not figured out which powder and bullet to use.

7.62x39 is powder friendly, might even be what you are using with the 223 Rem. The cheapest bullets are Berry's (14¢) offerings but they are limited to 1900 FPS which is going to probably affect the performance of a gas operated rifle. The next step up is the PPU solid (20¢) or soft (21¢). I hunt with the 7.62x39 and have good experience with the PPU but found the Speer (#2213) better. Unfortunately, this bullet has been discontinued.

In the weeks ahead, I will be getting back to my TLC313-150-RF which I designed for NOE. I've used it successfully in the Mini-30 but need to get back to it as I switched to the Speer as I work with the night vision just to eliminate one variable for the nighttime range work.
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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby GasGuzzler » 20 Jan 2018 22

LCT.

I bought a riser because Lee said I needed it on a turret with an Auto Disc. Just ASSumed I did again since Lee's site says so still.

I need a bullet. The rest is easy.

Got a sweet deal on an upper and also ordered five magazines.
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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby Ranch Dog » 21 Jan 2018 07

GasGuzzler wrote:I bought a riser because Lee said I needed it on a turret with an Auto Disc. Just ASSumed I did again since Lee's site says so still.


I see what you are saying. I started using the Safety Prime after I switched to the Auto Drum, so I've never used it. So it's an Auto Disk, Safety Prime thing.

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GasGuzzler wrote:I need a bullet. The rest is easy.

PPU 123-grain FMJ or PSP. When I purchase bullets, I buy them through Grafs because of their $7.95 flat rate shipping. The PPU also come in a heavy bag so you can usually reduce five hundred bullets to two bags, helps the storage issues.

I'm known as a bullet caster, but I'm going to jacketed with my 300 Savs, 308 Wins, my Rem 600 35 Rem. It is easy to shoot the 30 calibers with a cast bullet as long as you turn them down to 30-30 performance. I have plenty of 30-30s, and I miss their 2500 to 2600+ velocity, so I stopped trying. Same with the Rem 600, in that rifle, you can make the 35 Rem perform like a 358 Win. I'm on the fence with the 303 British. With a heavy bullet and its lower operating pressures (48.0K PSI), it's possible, but it also has some large chamber features that get in the way., I'm still working on it.

Where this is leading is I've been a Speer Hot Core fan, but Speer is slowly discontinuing those bullets. They have dropped the only bullet specifically designed for the 300 Sav and their 7.62x39 offering. I've been switching all my 30's to the PPU offerings and the shoot as well, if not better than the Speer, and their performance on big game has been outstanding. When it comes to brass, I look for PPU first, even over Starline.
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Re: More equipment for more calibers

Postby GasGuzzler » 21 Jan 2018 08

Click here for Lee's webpage

So do you think I need the riser or not? The riser is supposed to keep the measure from hitting the primer system on the LCT and Lee says it is needed with BOTH the AutoDisc and the AutoDrum. If you are using the AutoDrum (what I'm going to order to use on 7.62X39) without the riser then I should be able to also.

Looks like your bullet choice is the exact one I found and linked on the Lee Loader site early this morning. :D

Sorry for the overlapping info here as we were typing at nearly the same time.
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